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Life, Death & The Space Between

Oct 13, 2022


“Being a human being today means the same thing it meant in Socrates time, same as it meant in 1492.” [4:07]


“Connecting, being actually resonant with another group or another person is really where the source of healing comes from. And we all need to heal.” [5:59]


“Communication, connection and creativity are at the heart of all healing.” [10:20]


– psychiatrist Dr. Fred Moss




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Episode Summary:


Are you living your most authentic life? Do you feel heard? Your voice matters. Your voice can heal.


So says psychiatrist Dr. Fred Moss. He is a firm believer that conversation, communication, creativity, and human connection are ultimately at the source of all healing.


Listen in to hear this fascinating conversation about the reality of psychiatric medicines. (Spoiler alert: they’re not always the best way forward.) Learn simple and in-reach steps toward living your very uniquely authentic life.

Topics We Discuss:


  • [3:59] Being a human is the same as it has been for all of humanity. Theology and the old philosophers got it right, and it is timeless.


  • [6:41] Dr. Fred’s born desire for human communication, connection and creativity – via California in the 1970s, dropping out of college a couple times, and observing the barbaric use of drugs to stifle mentally ill children - drove him to psychiatry. 


  • [12:38] Introduced in 1987, Prozac changed the field of psychiatry. The idea emerged that if you were uncomfortable, there was something wrong with you. 


  • [14:05] Dr. Fred describes the “soul-splitting” reality of writing thousands of psychiatric prescriptions for patients. In 2006 Dr. Fred started taking people OFF medicine.


  • [15:12] Some people benefit from psychiatric medicines. But many more suffer from medicines. Many people are paying a big price: removing all feelings so they don’t feel anxious or depressed. Antidepressants by design worsen depression. When people discontinue psychiatric meds, their symptoms will spike. This is a well understood response. 


  • [19:47]  Psychopharmacology has the greatest profit margin in the history of planet Earth. We are expected to feel neutral or pleasant. 


  • [22:33] Even if you’re totally miserable – there may be nothing wrong with you! We are all struggling.


  • [25:54] The alternative Dr. Fred Moss recommends: authenticity, finding and presenting your true self. Being careful with what we put into our systems. Finding a mindfulness practice. Recognizing what it means to be human.  Connecting with another.


  • [28:22] Giving up sometimes -- for a while – is part of the human experience. Connecting with others through inquiry, curiosity, and wonder is key. Being with just yourself means you can only rehash your old stuff. 


  • [32:02] Recognizing authenticity vs. inauthenticity is innate. We can see pretension. We can see duplicity. Authenticity feels resonant. We can feel it. 


  • [34:52] The instantaneous healing when Dr Fred connects with prisoners or inpatients who have not been heard, maybe for decades. 


  • [35:54] Dr. Moss’ “Creative Eight”: art, music, dancing, singing, drama, cooking, writing, and gardening. When creating, negative symptoms disappear. Try doing three of these each day for one minute.


  • [40:42] The power of community. Find Your True Voice community.


  • [43:42] Without a true voice you will never be known. Without a voice you can be herded. But not heard.


  • [44:55] Amy’s speed round questions: What is spirituality? What is something people don’t know about you? What is one thing you’re looking forward to right now? What’s one thing you’re deeply grateful for? What book is on your nightstand? What is your favorite spiritual or healing practice? What is the most spiritually transformative experience of your life?


Dr. Amy Robbins’ listeners can get a free copy of Dr. Moss’ book, “Find Your True Voice” at


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Life, Death and the Space Between is brought to you by:

Dr. Amy Robbins | Host, Executive Producer

PJ Duke | Executive Producer

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